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Comments from Chris Stringer

Wed, 27 Jun 2001
Subject: Swanscombe "bones"

"I attach images of the Swanscombe "bones" found by Dr Cuozzo and forwarded here. They are:

005 "mastoid"

004 sectioned "mastoid"

003 "pubis"

002 sectioned "pubis"

I hope these images finally put to rest the suggestion that these are genuine fossil bones. I am returning the pieces to the care of Mr Paul Humber, who has promised to verify them as the same pieces found by Dr Cuozzo, as far as he is able. I will retain the thin sections in case there are accusations that I have falsified the data."
Chris Stringer

Dr. Cuozzo responds (7/2/01)

Legends for Illustrations

1. Cross-section of an occipital condyle of modem adult male. Note the open spaces of spongy bone and irregular trabecular pattern with the surrounding more solid (compact) cortical bone. These open spaces are usually filled with bone marrow.

2. Cross-section of occipital condyle of an ancient mammal Merycoidon gracilis which lived in the pre-flood world. Note the spongy bone no longer has spaces, but that they are filled in with minerals from and extensive fossilization process over thousands of years. Before this mineralization process took place, the bony spaces should have looked very similar to those in all mammals as seen in the modem human occipital condyle. Now it is rock-like.

3. Longitudinal section of a mandible of an unidentified mammal from a pre-flood setting. Note that the cortical plate of bone has been removed up to the roots of the teeth and is visible also at the lower border. Also in the process of sectioning, what appears to be two tooth buds were hemi-sectioned. All of the bone that looks like a marbled piece of steak is actually heavily mineralized spongy bone that is rock-like. The trabecular spaces are filled in with a stone-like substance.

4. A lateral view of a childís mandible age 5 to 6 years. Note the spongy bone exposed by the removal of the cortical bone. The partially formed unerupted teeth are missing from the canine, second premolar (P4) and first molar (Ml) crypts. This is the typical spongy bone trabecular formation that is visible in x-rays of both human adults and children. Note that these trabecular spaces are not seen in the mammal from the pre-flood levels which was heavily mineralized.

5. A cross-section of a piece of "Swanscombe gravel" found in the natural state with this surface exposed. This is a flint flake which appears to be typical of other flakes found in the Bamfield pit. It could be made by natural processes or by human intervention in the process of making a "tool".

Compare all of the above illustrations with Chris Stringerís sections of the bones that my wife and I found in the Barnfield Pit in Swanscombe. We think that it is reasonable to conclude that:

A. The typical spongy bone pattern visible in the childís mandible and adultís occipital condyle, that Dr. Stringer believes is so conspicuously absent in these bones, is also conspicuously absent in the heavily mineralized fossil mammal mandible and in the heavily mineralized fossil occipital condyle seen above. Therefore because of the heavy mineralization of the Swanscombe bones, their partial absence in the Stringer cross-sections is meaningless. Actually, if you look closely at his mastoid sections you can seen traces of many small air cells partially filled-in. Therefore this evidence does not put the case to rest as he so ardently desires.

B. The section of the mastoid process was cut too high and that if it were made a little lower, it would have cut directly across the large mastoid air cells seen in the mastoid x-ray recorded previously above.

C. We could tentatively conclude from the levels of mineralization of these bones that they may have been from a pre-flood environment.

New Photos from Paul Humber

Two photos of possible new explorations in the Barbfield Pit area of Swanscombe, England taken in July 2001 by the Paul Humber, moderator of the debate between Dr. Cuozzo and Dr. Mann.

The black area behind the picnic table shows signs of burning of the grass. There were several of these types of spots in the Swanscombe Nature Reserve.

What do they mean? If what Dr. Cuozzo found is not more of the skeleton, and the British musuem are so sure of this, then why are they looking at the site Dr. Cuozzo describes?

Click Here an introduction to the new remains found at Swanscombe by Dr. Jack Cuozzo Swanscombe page 1

Click Here for Chris Stringers response to the find Swanscombe page 2

Click Here to Read Dr. Cuozzo's response to Dr. Stringer Swanscombe page 3

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